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What movies have you enjoyed that everyone else despises?

I'm not talking about some fiasco like "Heaven's Gate" that was universally -- and rightly -- condemned on its release, a film that for some imbecile reason you liked, and kept liking, until enough others began to like it as well, allowing you to lie to yourself about how right you were when everyone else was wrong. No, I'm not referring to that. I'm talking about those guilty pleasures that make you so guilty you dare not mention them approvingly in certain circles, since such a confession would mark you for life, scarring your reputation beyond any hope of recovery. I mean those movies that will never develop a cult following, that merit the scorn that's been heaped upon them. Don't pretend you haven't got a few of these in the closet. None of us has perfect taste. No matter how much you educate your taste buds, you still make room for chili fries and pork rinds. I realize that it's mighty tough standing up in front of everybody and saying, "My name is Rupert, and I'm an alco -- excuse me, I actually enjoyed _______________ (fill in the blank)."

I'm gifted when it comes to publicly degrading myself, so I'll start. Here are four -- there are others -- that I've seen and ENJOYED, even though I know they're every bit as bad as everyone says they are:

ISHTAR

DEATH TO SMOOCHY

MOHAWK

LAND OF THE PHARAOHS

I've seen the first two only once, and that was after they'd been denounced and burned in effigy all over this land. I suppose I mention that to suggest that, if I saw them a second time, my eyes would see the truth, and I could make myself clean again. Don't bet on it.

The second two are not really hated by everyone. In fact, they have their acolytes. But they'll never convince me. I've seen both films many times and will see them again. Those of us who enjoy them know the reasons why, reasons which I won't disclose, since they'd exhibit me as a coarse and lewd fellow.

Anyone else willing to confess?

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I liked Bottle Rocket as well. A very sweet story.

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I'm in this camp as well. Down with all Bottle Rocket haters. :)

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Right on! ;o) "They'll never catch me, 'cause I'm f!@#in' innocent!"

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Why be ashamed of that?

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Up until 96 I watched and enjoyed just about every Jean Cleaud Van Damme film.

Come on, who doesn't enjoy Double Impact?

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Obviously, many hate this film but I think Showgirls is the most campy, ridiculous, funny film from the 1990s. The director took this film so seriously as a drama yet it just comes across as such a campy comedy. Verhoeven wanted to create a masterpiece much like the original showing of Plan 9 form Outer Space or Mommie Dearest... and in some ways I think he succeeded but not in the way he had wanted...

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"Idaho Transfer". Everyone seems to give this movie bad reviews but I absolutely love it! I find it interesting that you have to strip down to undergarments to travel through time... undergarments can travel through time with you but the rest of your clothes can't? I don't know maybe I missed something, I haven't seen it in a long time, but I think this is just a fantastically ridiculous excuse to have the actors/actresses strip down...

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I love Momento and Moulin Rogue which everybody I know hated. I also love Cable Guy, Tankgirl and Butterfly Effect.

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I haven't seen this movie and will probably only catch it by accident, if at all.

But I'll gladly watch actors/actresses strip down on the tiniest pretext. The lot of us moviegoers have been doing that all our lives. Whatever else it may be, Idaho Transfer is a film square in one of the oldest, and most secure, traditions in cinema history.

A shame it wasn't rated "R". Then our time-travelers woulda had to make the trip starkers -- for me, at least, always more exciting to watch than rubber-stuffed bras and piss-stained underpants.

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A good swashbuckler warms my peg leg. Okay, I liked Timeline and I feel pressed to admit it. Quite the good swashbuckler with a modern twist. Over the top ad libbing but Gerard Butler's character made up for all that.

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A good friend of mine tells me, "There's an ass for every seat on the bus."

I'm glad you found something to like in Heaven's Gate. For me, it was cruelly bad, worse than I thought possible. In fact, I was pre-disposed to like it, since by the time I saw it all the critics had shit on it so thoroughly that I figured it must be good. Universal contempt and anger are often associated with works of great, but unsettling, art. That - was - not - the - case - here!

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I think I so badly expressed my friend's remark that I distorted its meaning. What he was driving at was simple: There's room for each person to have his own opinion.

Any film has its acolytes. In a sense, that's what this thread is all about.

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